We recommend you give it a go on Singularity, it is live now.

To answer your question; all in space wrecks and cargo containers will be added as a closable window to the tree view. So you could still have a small window in the corner with a list of all the wrecks you have opened as part of the tree view. Then loot them via the tree view.

The tree view in effect removes the need to have two windows opened, as you can drag items via the tree view. So you can drag and drop items to your hearts content without opening more than one window.

Just wanted to note that due to popular demand we've made changes so that the inventory window will have two sets of width, height, position and tree collapsed/expanded settings; one for stations and one for space, so you'll be able to configure it as you please for both scenarios.

" I want the active ship to have a separate window for its cargo hold. I want that window in the same place both in space AND in station. I want it to stay there till I want to close it. "

And on top of this I want the windows for my ships and hanger to be tabed the way they used to be. And stay where I put them.

I find the nested list counterintuitive. The way it keeps opening to new windows in itself and not opening new ones, the way it keep changing to whatever my mouse is over, its just bad!

I would prefer doubble click over shift+click / right-click-menu for such functionality any day (why should it require two hands or hand gestures, trying to hit the right menu option, when a simple double click could do the same)

Yes. If you select a wreck and click the "Loot all" button, the wreck will be removed and you will automatically switch over to the next wreck you have in the tree view (if any).

The tree view in effect removes the need to have two windows opened, as you can drag items via the tree view. So you can drag and drop items to your hearts content without opening more than one window.

Damn, we totally forgot about that. And by forgetting, I mean forgetting to mention that we've added this functionality in the blog! Sadly, some grumpy game designers didn't share my opinion that we should implement ctrl+c as well...

Most notably, I have completely lost control over where new inventories open. Use case: I have a bunch of stuff in my indy's cargo hold and want to transfer it to various parts of a POS hangar. So I approach the hangar and out of habit click GÇ£open cargoGÇ¥ on itGǪ *bam* All my inventory windows now show the hangar(!) This not an optimal solution, because what I wanted was to have the cargo hold in one window, the hangar in another, and then drag stuff from one to the other while having both in view. Or even simpler scenario: I want to pick up some loot from a wreckGǪ approach the wreck and click open cargo, and now my cargo view shifts to show the wreck, but I wanted that window to show my cargo hold GÇö that's why i selected it.

Right now on TQ, I consistently use three different stacks for my inventory windows in all environments and an additional window for the hangar bay when in station: one is any kind of corp hangar (in station, at a POS, my Orca's corp hangar, construction platforms etc); the second is my ship cargo holds (all ship holds share the same stack); a third for GÇ£auxiliaryGÇ¥ storage (drone bays, ore bays, ship bays, deliveries, cargo cans). This gives me a neat row of role-specific windows where each inventory opens in a pre-determined slot, and it gives me way to quickly and at a glance see what's available when I want to move stuff from one place to the next, or just check on my cargo status.

This kind of setup is no longer possible because every item location is available in every window. In and of itself, that's not a problem because it means I can rearrange things without having to shuffle a bunch of tabs around. The problem is that the new inventory is seemingly completely unaware of the ability to have two windows open and has no sense of context of what should open where GÇö everything opens everywhere, which is most likely the exact opposite of what I want to happen. I would suggest that you either remove the GÇ£open cargoGÇ¥ button from the selected item window (worst solution), or you change the behaviour so that clicking that button opens a new window with the selected item as the default view (emulating what happens now), or (best, but most complicated solution), that I can select which inventory locations are available in each window GÇö iow, if I could turn off things like ship cargo and drone bay in one window (and conversely turn off cans in a second window) so that whenever I come across a can and open it, it will only appear in that first window, leaving the second one showing whatever it was showing before.

The old system was inherently a multi-pane system because that was the only way it could be done. The new system tries to be a single-pane system, much like the Windows ExplorerGǪ but the problem is that single panes are pretty useless, which is why tools like NC/TC were invented. It doesn't have everything in one place GÇö it has one thing at a time in one place, and the main advantage is that you can quickly select which GÇ£one thingGÇ¥ out of everything you want to see. There's a subtle but very important different in how those two solutions give you access to GÇ£everything at onceGÇ¥. Yes, just like Explorer, the new inventory lets you open multiple windows and thus emulate the old system (with a nice set of new features for each window), but in terms of having everything at your immediate disposal, it's no different from the old one because you still have to open all those windows. Only now, you have to shift-click a whole lot rather than have the different views you want open in new windows by default.

Now, in truth, neither system is even remotely like TC and the old one is unarguably lacking features, but at least it assumed that there would be multiple windows and you could arrange those windows in any setup you liked GÇö the new ones wants to assume that there will only be one window, but the simple fact is that there won't be because that would be horribly inefficient (and it's exactly that inefficiency that the entire line of [whatever] Commanders throughout history has solved). Unfortunately, asking them to implement n-pane split views and quick tabs for different locations to begin to approach what TC lets you do might be a bit much at this pointGǪ

I understand that there are always people who don't like something, especially when that something is new.

For instance, when I think GǣinventoryGǥ, I see things like the station hangar, the corp hangar, the asset list, the corp asset listGǪ and maybe the corp delivery hangar. I do not see things like ship cargo holds, drone bays, jetcans, wrecks, etc.

...people will fell unconfortable about it in the beguinning, but they will like it more and more as they will use it....

Use it for all of 2 MINUTES and obvious is obvious in this case.

Major server update yesterday and NO CHANGES at all were based on what is posted here.

It's like some kind of sick joke that never stops being told.

So this is the 'Official' dev blog thread where they ask for suggestions and the last thread it seems they have the inclination to reply.

The funny part is I have just re-read the dev blog and almost the very first line says 'What do all EVE players have in common? They need to use Inventory windows. A lot of them... '

And then they go on to change everything to one single window!

...plenty of less bright words...

Going on Tranq next week!

If you want the can/wreck to be displayed in a seperate window you have to shift-click. I would prefer the shift-click opens in the same window and normal click in a new window.

I think they are listening, but I have a feeling they're reading those posts from the beginning from people who vaguely looked at it and called it "AWESOME", "COOL!!!!", and "I CANT WAIT TO USE THIS" not realizing that those people probably didn't consider the larger picture and just saw all the cool new features and sugar coating and were sold on the spot. It's like giving a kid sweet cake instead of dinner, which will make the kid very happy, but in the long run you cant replace dinner with cakes completely. You need to have both or the kid will grow fat and unhealthy and be very unhappy in the long run.

This is why I said it needs to be implemented along with the old system and then data collected on how people use new vs old. Instead it's going to replace the current system and the real shitstorm will hit when majority of the people who don't even know this is coming get to try it first hand. Who knows? Maybe we are just crazy and we'll get used to it in a few days, but, if we're right... well, get the popcorn out and enjoy the show

It is worthless too, if the windows closing and resizing every gatejump, re/undock and need reopen or repositioning time to time etc.
The ships still merged with this inventory system, still no multipanel, still annoying handling my stuffz, still hard and slow to use inventory in battles or at POS or for a station hangar manager. Need shift+click for open another windows to capbooster cans to easy handling in pvp, but need reopen with shift+click everytime when jump over a gate. This is a crap and alpha state inventory system.